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Sunday, January 22, 2006

What are Moral Values?

First is an email that was forwarded to me. I checked on www.snopes.com and there's nothing related to this article, so it may be real. Then below it is my response.

What Are Moral Values?"
by Rev. Dr. Robin Meyers
Mayflower Church, Oklahoma City
As some of you know,I am minister of Mayflower Congregational Church in Oklahoma City, a church in northwest Oklahoma City, and professor of Rhetoric at Oklahoma City University. But you would most likely have encountered me on the pages of the Oklahoma Gazette, where I have been a columnist for six years, and hold the record for the most number of angry letters to the editor. Tonight, I join ranks of those who are angry, because I have watched as the faith I love has been taken over by those who claim to speak for Jesus, but whose actions are anything but Christian. We've heard a lot lately about so-called "moral values" as having swung the election to President Bush. Well, I'm a great believer in moral values, but we need to have a discussion, all over this country, about exactly what constitutes a moral value -- I mean what are we talking about? Because we don't get to make them up as we go along, especially not if we are people of faith. We have an inherited tradition of what is right and wrong, and moral is as moral does. Let me give you just a few of the reasons why I take issue with those in power who claim moral values are on their side: When you start a war on false pretenses, and then act as if your deceptions are justified because you are doing God's will, and that your critics are either unpatriotic or lacking in faith, there are some of us who have given our lives to teaching and preaching the faith who believe that this is not only not moral, but immoral.

When you live in a country that has established international rules for waging a just war, build the United Nations on your own soil to enforce them and then arrogantly break the very rules you set down for the rest of the world, you are doing something immoral. When you claim that Jesus is the Lord of your life, and yet fail to acknowledge that your policies ignore his essential teaching, or turn them on their head (you know, Sermon on the Mount stuff like that we must never return violence for violence and that those who live by the sword will die by the sword), you are doing something immoral.

When you act as if the lives of Iraqi civilians are not as important as the lives of American soldiers, and refuse to even count them, you are doing something immoral. When you find a way to avoid combat in Vietnam, and then question the patriotism of someone who volunteered to fight, and came home a hero, you are doing something immoral. When you ignore the fundamental teachings of the gospel, which says that the way the strong treat the weak is the ultimate ethical test, by giving tax breaks to the wealthiest among us so the strong will get stronger and the weak will get weaker, you are doing something immoral. When you wink at the torture of prisoners, and deprive so-called "enemy combatants" of the rules of the Geneva Conventions, which your own country helped to establish and insists that other countries follow, you are doing something immoral. When you claim that the world can be divided up into the good guys and the evil doers, slice up your own nation into those who are with you, or with the terrorists -- and then launch a war which enriches your own friends and seizes control of the oil to which we are addicted, instead of helping us to kick the habit, you are doing something immoral. When you fail to veto a single spending bill, but ask us to pay for a war with no exit strategy and no end in sight, creating an enormous deficit that hangs like a great millstone around the necks of our children, you are doing something immoral. When you cause most of the rest of the world to hate a country that was once the most loved country in the world, and act like it doesn't matter what others think of us, only what God thinks of you, you have done something immoral.

When you use hatred of homosexuals as a wedge issue to turn out record numbers of evangelical voters, and use the Constitution as a tool of discrimination, you are doing something immoral. When you favor the death penalty, and yet claim to be a follower of Jesus, who said an eye for an eye was the old way, not the way of the kingdom, you are doing something immoral. When you dismantle countless environmental laws designed to protect the earth which is God's gift to us all, so that the corporations that bought you and paid for your favors will make higher profits while our children breathe dirty air and live in a toxic world, you have done something immoral The earth belongs to the Lord, not Halliburton. When you claim that our God is bigger than their God, and that our killing is righteous, while theirs is evil, we have begun to resemble the enemy we claim to be fighting, and that is immoral. We have met the enemy, and the enemy is us. When you tell people that you intend to run and govern as a "compassionate conservative," using the word which is the essence of all religious faith -- compassion, and then show no compassion for anyone who disagrees with you, and no patience with those who cry to you for help, you are doing something immoral.

When you talk about Jesus constantly, who was a healer of the sick, but do nothing to make sure that anyone who is sick can go to see a doctor, even if she doesn't have a penny in her pocket, you are doing something immoral. When you put judges on the bench who are racist, and will set women back a hundred years, and when you surround yourself with preachers who say gays ought to be killed, you are doing something immoral. I'm tired of people thinking that because I'm a Christian, I must be a supporter of President Bush, or that because I favor civil rights and gay rights I must not be a person of faith. I'm tired of people saying that I can't support the troops but oppose the war. I heard that when I was your age, when the Vietnam war was raging. We knew that that war was wrong, and you know that this war is wrong -- the only question is how many people are going to die before these make-believe Christians are removed from power? This country is bankrupt. The war is morally bankrupt. The claim of this administration to be Christian is bankrupt. And the only people who can turn things around are people like you--young people who are just beginning to wake up to what is happening to them. It's your country to take back. It's your faith to take back. It's your future to take back.

Don't be afraid to speak out. Don't back down when your friends begin to tell you that the cause is righteous and that the flag should be wrapped around the cross, while the rest of us keep our mouths shut. Real Christians take chances for peace. So do real Jews, and real Muslims, and real Hindus, and real Buddhists -- so do all the faith traditions of the world at their heart believe one thing: life is precious. Every human being is precious. Arrogance is the opposite of faith. Greed is the opposite of charity. And believing that one has never made a mistake is the mark of a deluded man, not a man of faith. And war -- war is the greatest failure of the human race-- and thus the greatest failure of faith.

There's an old rock and roll song, whose lyrics say it all: War, what is it good for? absolutely nothing. And what is the dream of the prophets? That we should study war no more, that we should beat our swords into plowshares and our spears into pruning hooks. Who would Jesus bomb, indeed? How many wars does it take to know that too many people have died? What if they gave a war and nobody came? Maybe one day we will find out. Time to march again my friends. Time to sing, and to pray, and refuse to participate in the madness.


This really doesn't deserve a response. The writer is attacking a person, not the issues. (S)He's breaking the moral code that (s)he claims to be defending.

If you have a disagreement with another Christian (no matter where his Christianity is or where yours is), you go to him IN PRIVATE to discuss what you believe is error. IF HE REFUSES TO HEAR YOU, then you bring an elder member of the Church and confront the man, AGAIN IN PRIVATE. Then, if he refuses to hear you or be admonished, you ban him from YOUR CONGREGATION --- uhmm, if the President is not a member of your congregation, then what? Perhaps a letter or email that you keep private???

This writer has chosen to go public and to attack the person -- and on preconceived (read that Media propaganda) ideas of what the 'truth of the situation is.' I'll wager that the writer has not had a sit-down with the President to talk to him about his moral values.

Much of what this writer has to go on is what third parties have said, what was reportedly said as reported by the Media, and her/his own comprehension of what (s)he thinks (s)he understands. Third party evidence is not admissible in Court -- it's called hearsay. Other than to spread gossip (isn't it amazing that the word 'gossip' originally came from "spreading the gospel of Jesus?" My, how we have distorted the Truth!) this article is worth less than the ink it takes to make a hard-copy.

My advice to anyone who thinks this article is worth something -- email the President (www.gov.gov) and your Senators and Congresspeople (www.gov.gov) and anyone else you think would benefit from this article.

I will take issue with the "multiculturalism" that is the writer's agenda: "When you claim that our God is bigger than their God, and that our killing is righteous, while theirs is evil, we have begun to resemble the enemy we claim to be fighting, and that is immoral. We have met the enemy, and the enemy is us." HOW can someone who's attacking on the basis of Christianity even write such an absurd statement?? If you do a very little digging, you'll find out that "Allah" is the ancient Moon God of Ur. And that basically the Islam religion is based on a lie. Even though people who have "Christian weblogs" claim that Islam is the religion of Ishmael, I'm here to tell you, do some research, because Ishmael was 'marked' but he was still a Jew -- even St. Paul knew that when he wrote his epistles. (Do a word search, if you doubt.)

Not only is the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Yeshua (Jesus) bigger than the "Moon God Allah" there is NO OTHER GOD BEFORE (OR AFTER) HIM. If you claim to be a Christian -- Sola Scriptura/Sola Fide -- (aka Bible believing/by faith) then you cannot accept what this person writes, even if (s)he does claim to be Christian.

And what then does the writer do to exhibit his/her agenda farther? Uses the "multiculturalism" plea "Real Christians take chances for peace. So do real Jews, and real Muslims, and real Hindus, and real Buddhists -- so do all the faith traditions of the world at their heart believe one thing: life is precious." I refer you to the Koran -- which specifically says that the "infidel" (the NON Muslim) is to be destroyed. Killed. How does that say "life is precious?" Why do Fundamentalist Muslims want their women covered head to toe? Do you know? Because they see their women as vaginas walking. Yes they do, all you have to do is a little research. Since Muhammad claims that it was the Angel Gabriel who told him what to write (even the "Satanic Verses"), nothing but absolute abandonment of Islam will create the peace and "life is precious" attitude in the Middle East and elsewhere that Islam has spread. To a Muslim, only HIS life is precious. And his children? Send them into a crowd with a bomb strapped to his chest and blow him up by remote control using a "throw away phone" bought in the US. If a Muslim sees a boy child he is attracted to, he can do sexually with that child whatever he wants -- the Koran says so! If a Muslim is attracted to a six year old girl, he's free to marry her. I think they have to wait until the girl is 8 to have sexual intercourse with her. And what about the half-breed girls or girls captured in battle? They're "given" to their male friends while the men are visiting. And it's all in the Koran.

Anyone who wants to call Islam a "religion of peace" or a religion where "all life is precious" has not read the Koran. Of ALL the "religions" on the face of the earth, only Islam demands that infidels and apostates must be killed so that their "pure" religion can be the ONLY religion on the face of the earth. No other religion espouses killing non-adherents who refuse to convert. (And unless you've actually studied the Crusades, don't throw those out for discussion as there is a lot more to the Crusades than what you may have studied in school.)

The writer wants you to believe that the majority of voters are deluded. The writer is deluded. The writer has not studied the Bible and Bible Commentaries or enough history books to be able to write an article about moral values concerning the President. And as for "arrogance?" (S)He has plenty of that. (S)He does not speak for God, even though (s)he uses His Name in her article.

Feel free to pass my email back to this person, as there is no email address attached to the article. I did not intend to sit at the computer and respond to this, but I can't stand falsehoods and propaganda to be spread "in the name of Christianity" when Christ has nothing to do with someone's agenda.


Yeah, I know, I do get carried away. Just seek Truth. Settle for nothing less. Do your research and then comment.

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